Saturday, June 09, 2007

Conservative Blog B.S. (part 3)/ Bush Is No FDR!

It’s been awhile since I’ve written a, “Conservative Blog BS” post. Needless to say, that isn’t because some of the neocon blogs don’t give me plenty to write about, because every day is a cornucopia of bs on some of these sites. No, I haven’t written this type of post, not for lack of ammunition, but more because I haven’t been inspired enough to respond to the typical, “global warming isn’t real”, “we’re really making progress in Iraq, but the liberal media won’t report it”, crap. My usual reaction when I read or hear this stuff is to think, “why bother arguing, all the evidence in the world won’t convince this person because they’ve already made up their mind to ignore any facts that don’t concur with the conclusion they want to draw”. That said, occasionally I run across neocon b.s. that is simply too illogical and, insulting to common sense, to be ignored.

Yesterday was one of those times. I was innocently surfing the web, when I came upon a blog espousing an age old neocon favorite, how we could never win World War II if fought today, because the “nambie pambie liberals” would want to cut and run as soon as there were casualties. Now, I know this is going to be a shocker for many of the conservatives out there, so if that’s you please sit down before you read further, NOT EVERY war America fights in is like World War II! In fact, each and every separate conflict has its very own set of circumstances and while some wars, such as World War II, are necessary and clear cut ( because we were attacked, Hitler was a madman who was attempting to conquer the world etc.), the majority of wars are not so black and white. The current Iraq War for instance is a great example of a conflict which was completely unnecessary and if you want to cast it in a World War II mold, then we would fit the part of the Japanese, who attacked preemptively, much better than we would the white hatted America of that generation.

I mean seriously, I know conservatives by nature hate change, but it’s been over sixty years since World War II ended, let it go already!! It’s quite apparent that most of us yearn for the days when things were simple, when America knew exactly who the enemy was, where to find him and how to fight him, but unfortunately those days are over and fighting terrorism is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like fighting a conventional war. For those of you who insist upon comparing the “war on terror”, the war in Iraq and every other modern day conflict to World War II, give this some thought; some of the reasons we were successful in World War II-we had leaders who had a plan and knew what the hell they were doing, we attacked the nations who we’re actually involved in the conflict (for example we went after Germany and Japan, not Switzerland and Mexico), we had true allies who fought along side us-we did not attempt to go it alone, we abided by certain principles of morality such as the Geneva Convention and did not attempt to cast ourselves as the good guys and then when convenient throw our principles to the wind and emulate the actions of the, “bad guys”, we had a President who understood that giving tax cuts to wealthy Americans during a war and then crying that he needed more money to fund the war would probably not be a bright idea etc.

So I’ll tell you what, if you want to make comparisons between World War II and all of America’s modern conflicts, I as a liberal pledge to be just as supportive and “patriotic” as the WWII generation just as soon as you pledge to give me leaders as smart as FDR & Truman (who were democrats, I might add-lol) and to actually go after the people who attacked this country, Osama and Al Qaeda, NOT Saddam and Iraq!


Anonymous Brad said...

If FDR were actually around today he would be derided and dismissed as a socialist. Same thing with Jesus.

6/10/2007 10:02 AM  
Anonymous Jenn said...

In your last paragraph you said something about countries that didn't attack us. So what your trying to tell me is that Sadam didn't have anything to do with 9/11? I swear that the current administration has made Iraq and the attacks on 9/11 one thing, its the WAR ON TERROR you know...Wow I am going to have to tell everybody I know that Sadam didn't attack us!

*For all you foolish people out there, this is sarcasm, and yes I am very off topic!

6/10/2007 10:25 AM  
Blogger Leo said...

Brad, yeah probably, but considering what kind of Presidents we elect now, it's a compliment to FDR that modern Americans wouldn't vote for him. Jenn, yes the Bush administration has been obsenely successful at linking the two unrelated events. Thanks for your comments.

6/10/2007 2:23 PM  
Blogger LET'S TALK said...

Very well written post, I really enjoyed reading this.

Mentarch, from Another Point Of View said on his post: "It never ceases to amaze me to what levels of utter irrationality the fundamentalists, neocons and other right-wing madhaters are willing to descend into."

"They lie, they misrepresent, they use decoy arguments and make ad hominem attacks. For them, the use of duplicity, of secrecy, of arguments of (non-existent) conspiracy, of fact (and non-fact) selectivity/cherry-picking, of quacks/fake experts, as well as putting forth logical fallacies, are simply means to an end."

Then you make the point; "I as a liberal pledge to be just as supportive and “patriotic” as the WWII generation just as soon as you pledge to give me leaders as smart as FDR & Truman (who were democrats, I might add-lol) and to actually go after the people who attacked this country, Osama and Al Qaeda, NOT Saddam and Iraq"

Well said, great read!

6/10/2007 3:34 PM  
Blogger Leo said...

Let's Talk, Thank you for your comment and compliment. I'm pleased you enjoyed my post and I appreciate you pointing me in the direction of "Another Point of View's" blog. I will check it out.

6/10/2007 7:25 PM  

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